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LS vs Shatter

Postby Paige on Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:00 am

So - is it better to use LS or shatter against the dragon?

Hypothetically ( :wink: ), you are on Level 12 with adequate but not exciting equipment. You have a handful of T skills to use on the dragon. And you have enough M skills to use either LS or shatter, but not both. Which gives you the better bang for your buck?

Does the calculation change if you are carrying a fairy?

I'm interested in both the statistical analysis of a situation like this, if anyone knows it, as well as what other (better) players would do in this situation.

Thanks!
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Re: LS vs Shatter

Postby falknhayn on Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:45 am

Always use LS

If you're interested in the analysis you can run simulations in Lordbot: http://falknhayn.datum.tv/projects/lord-bot
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Re: LS vs Shatter

Postby Paige on Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:46 am

That's what I thought and what I have been doing, but I was curious if there were other opinions out there. Thanks Falk!
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Re: LS vs Shatter

Postby the mystical one on Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:49 pm

If it's late in the fight, and shatter will guarantee (or at least give you a much better shot than a T) you finish off the beast, then shatter! Otherwise save for mind heal.
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Re: LS vs Shatter

Postby Jessrond on Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:24 am

When you have between 28-31 Mystical Points should you be doing a shatter then LS? I have done shatter/LS To start fights when I'm stuck where I can do shatter/LS but not mh/ls
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Re: LS vs Shatter

Postby injektilo on Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:47 am

LS should be your first port of call at all times. LS then do the next best available thing, be that Shatter or MH, depending on your available skills.

The scenario tmo is referring to is what you have 32M and haven't yet used MH yet and the dragon is on the ropes (3000hp say). In stead of using MH and then another T, you can use shatter to finish the fight in one blow. It's probably a reasonably unusual scenario.
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Re: LS vs Shatter

Postby the mystical one on Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:20 am

Oh yes. If you have LS it should always be the very first thing you do in a dragon fight. Always.

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And then if you have enough for mind heal, save your mystical points for the mind heal, unless in the very rare case one shatter will finish the dragon off and you haven't used MH yet.

In the case where you have less than 32M (and thus cannot LH/MH), go ahead and LH, then shatter as your first action.


Note: I totally misread your topic title originally and thought you were asking MH vs. Shatter
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Re: LS vs Shatter

Postby Jessrond on Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:24 am

Does the players choice of attack method have any impact on the RNG? Or is it just the timing?
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Re: LS vs Shatter

Postby the mystical one on Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:29 am

All the attacks (A, T, D, H, S, P) make one call to the RNG.
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